Nail Your Messaging, Cut Your Hours: How Smarter Marketing Saves You Time - with Jerry Potter (Ep#22)

Nail Your Messaging, Cut Your Hours: How Smarter Marketing Saves You Time - with Jerry Potter (Ep#22)

The Upside-Up Marketing Podcast · 2025-04-30

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Most online business owners aren't struggling because they're not working hard enough – they're struggling because they're saying the right things, but at the wrong time.

When your marketing doesn’t connect with where your audience actually is, you have to hustle twice as hard for half the results. But when you nail it, everything shifts – more leads, more sales, and more freedom to actually live your life.

In this episode of The Upside-Up Marketing Podcast, I'm joined by Jerry Potter to explore how getting your messaging spot-on is the one of the key elements to growing your business without growing your working hours.

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TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00 Introduction

00:41 Meet Jerry Potter: High Leverage Marketing Expert

02:46 The DATE Framework: Stages of Client Relationships

05:55 Applying the DATE Framework to Social Media and Podcasts

13:27 The Done by Lunch Philosophy

19:01 Final Thoughts

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The Upside-Up Marketing Podcast

Most marketing exists as a means to persuade people to buy the thing the business wants to sell. But this can be really hard, and can lead business owners to avoid marketing as it all feels a bit uncomfortable and, well, "icky".

This sort of marketing, however, is "upside-down" and the good news for you is that there is another way.

I call it "Upside-Up Marketing", and it starts with understanding the people you want to work with and creating offers they actually WANT to buy.

This makes marketing much easier, and definitely takes away that ick.

In this podcast I take my experience from my background in psychology and behavioural sciences and combined with my 20+ year career in market research, to help you create offers people actually want to buy, and share them in a way that feels good both to you AND to the people who might buy them.

All over a nice cup of tea 😊

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