Upside #45 - Proxy Wars, Booming IPOs, & Defence Saves Europe

Upside #45 - Proxy Wars, Booming IPOs, & Defence Saves Europe

Upside · 2025-06-21

🎙️ Upside 45 Podcast – “Defence, Dirty Deals, and Disruption”

This week

EU defence spend motors - will it save us?European Space Agency military satellites US-China competition - European opportunity?US IPOs up 30% this year, so far, so whatBritish surgical robotics start-up -> sell-out

⏱️ [01:13] – Geopolitical Hotspots and Defence

Iran’s global influence and diasporaUkraine’s resistance to Israel-Iran dynamicsCautious optimism about regime change WWIII has begun?

⏱️ [03:35] – Oil & Markets

Brent crude spikes (from $70 → $77, possibly $100+) Shipping, inflation, and interest rates affected Bank of England holds rates amid uncertainty

⏱️ [05:52] – Impact on Venture?

Founders not immediately impacted, but long-term capital flow risks flaggedDefence tension might dry up funding or shift VC attention

⏱️ [06:56] – Defence as a European Economic Engine?

Defence our financial lifeline? But VC exposure to defence is tiny

⏱️ [09:35] – Unicorns in EU Defense Tech

3 recent unicorns: Helsing, Tekever, Quantum SystemsHelsing shifts gearVCs rush in - BUT Sales cycles, procurement, regulation

⏱️ [12:38] – Helsing’s Capital & The VC Taboo

US firms: Lightspeed, Accel, General Catalyst Homegrown capital is crucial to reducing 10x funding gap with USEIF restricts arms/weapons investmentsHelsing’s value as a “reference company” for LPs

⏱️ [18:51] – ESA’s Satellite Plans

EU Space Agency wants €1B+ to build military satellite network.

⏱️ [22:15] – Iris vs Starlink Context

Iris <> StarlinkEU must move fast on sovereignty or risk dependence

⏱️ [23:59] – NASA Cuts vs ESA Budgets

NASA’s proposed 25% cutEurope’s ESA increasing funding—ironically divergent paths

⏱️ [25:52] – China, Trade Wars, and Supply Chains

EU’s dependence on Chinese imports (clean tech, chemicals) Fear of trade dumping post US-China de-coupling Rare earth constraints impacting defence and auto industries

⏱️ [29:45] – Tariff Timelines

July 9 tariff decisionPotential EU-US mini deal to avoid Trump’s punitive tariffsPharmaceuticals next

⏱️ [32:00] – IPO Boom in the US

Chime, Circle, CoreWeave IPOs—massive post-IPO pops Klarna leads EU pipeline

⏱️ [34:04] – IPO vs Private Capital

Bill Gurley’s hatred of bankersPrivate markets still offering better valuationsSPACs are back!

⏱️ [36:25] – Surgical Robots and CMR Surgical

CMR (Cambridge Medical Robotics)Raised $1B, now eyeing $4B exitPremature exitCMR’s potential lostScale homegrown tech more aggressively

⏱️ [44:45] – Deed of the Week

Daniel Ek’s €600M into HelsingParis-based Nabla raises $70M Series CScale AI deal closes in one weekFastest capital deployment of its kind; no FTC review needed

⏱️ [49:05] – Founders in Government

Alex Depledge named UK entrepreneurship advisorPraise for founders like Matt Clifford shaping UK tech policy

⏱️ [51:10] – Meta’s AI Talent War

Meta’s aggressive poaching of OpenAI talentAI job market likened to football transfer seasonPay off or backfire?

Upside

This week's happenings in startup and investing land. Getting underneath VC, and discussing how to better support the European startup eco-system. 

Every week we share what's been on our mind and get under the skin of VC, investing, startups and founder psychology. 

From the team behind SuperSeed who invest in technical teams solving difficult business problems. 

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