Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs’ vs. Populism
In this conversation, Ross talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump’s first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.
Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 31, 2025.
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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