129. How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music ft. Rolling Stone's Rob Sheffield

For literally years now, we’ve been quoting Rob Sheffield on this podcast. Rob, who is perhaps best known for his work writing for Rolling Stone, is both a long-time fan and professional critic of Taylor Swift. He also is a self-proclaimed fan of Taylearning…so we had to get him on the podcast! Tune into this hefty TL4 Season Finale to hear us interview Rob about his life, opinions, observations, and his new book - “Heartbreak Is the National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music.” The novel, which is a kaleidoscopic and passionate look at Taylor’s life through Rob’s eyes, has received acclaim and has quickly become a staple piece of literature in the Swiftie fandom. Hot tip- listen all the way through the end to see how you can get your hands on a signed copy!

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With nearly two decades in the entertainment industry, Taylor Swift has cemented herself as a musical and cultural icon and phenomenon. However, there are substantial layers to the story of Taylor. All of that history cannot be learned in a day...but perhaps it can be "Taylearned" in a podcast! Weekly, join Olivia Kotarski & Dani Winchester as they break down all things Taylor Swift, from the rumors to the theories to what started it all: the music!
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