Jiu-Jitsu, Negotiation & Resilience: Lessons from BJJ Mental Models Host & Black Belt Steve Kwan

Rolling Through Negotiations: First Nations Leadership, BJJ & Business Strategy · 2025-04-30

🥋 What does it really mean to be like water in business, on the mats, and in life?

This week on Rolling Through Negotiations, we welcome Steve Kwan, host of the world’s most popular Jiu-Jitsu concepts podcast, BJJ Mental Models, a show that’s reshaped how thousands think about training, strategy, and growth in Jiu-Jitsu.

Key takeaways:

The top 3 mental models every grappler and negotiator should knowWhy assertiveness (not aggression) is the real foundation of resilienceHow the 80/20 rule and Kaizen offer lessons far beyond the mat

This is an honest, grounded exchange between two curious minds who see every roll and every conversation as a chance to learn, adjust, and move forward with intention.

To learn more from Steve, listen to the BJJ Mental Models podcast and follow him on Instagram at @bjjmentalmodels.

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Rolling Through Negotiations: First Nations Leadership, BJJ & Business Strategy

🎙 Welcome to Rolling Through Negotiations, the podcast where strategy and resilience meet negotiation mastery.

Hosted by Matthew Karakoulakis, one of Australia’s top lawyers, this podcast blends the principles of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ), First Nations wisdom, and business strategy to help you negotiate like a pro.

Featuring insights from:
✅ First Nations leaders sharing traditional knowledge that strengthens negotiation techniques
✅ Brazilian Jiu Jitsu athletes revealing how discipline, adaptability, and mindset shape decision-making
✅ Top business leaders and legal professionals breaking down high stakes negotiation strategies

We explore how mental resilience, business growth, leadership, and personal development are all connected. Whether you're in the boardroom, on the mats, or negotiating in everyday life, Rolling Through Negotiations brings you powerful strategies, transformative stories, and practical tools to sharpen your negotiation skills.

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