First Nations Leadership with Gemma Lloyd, Founder of Sacred Country Consulting

Rolling Through Negotiations: First Nations Leadership, BJJ & Business Strategy · 2025-06-18

In this episode of Rolling Through Negotiations, Matthew has a yarn with Gemma Lloyd a proud Dunghutti and Gumbaynggirr woman, founder of Sacred Country Consulting, and a leader whose journey bridges community, business, and spirituality.

Gemma shares how she weaves cultural protocol, integrity, and connection into every aspect of her work. From unpacking the grey areas of black cladding to offering powerful analogies on how First Nations economies operate, this yarn gets to the heart of what authentic Aboriginal business looks and feels like.

Whether you're in procurement, working in community, or dreaming of starting your own business, this conversation is packed with practical insights and gentle reminders that rest, respect, and cultural responsibility go a long way.

Want to connect with Gemma? Visit: sacredcountryconsulting.com or follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sacredcountryconsulting/

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Rolling Through Negotiations: First Nations Leadership, BJJ & Business Strategy

🎙 Welcome to Rolling Through Negotiations, the podcast where strategy and resilience meet negotiation mastery.

Hosted by Matthew Karakoulakis, one of Australia’s top lawyers, this podcast blends the principles of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ), First Nations wisdom, and business strategy to help you negotiate like a pro.

Featuring insights from:
✅ First Nations leaders sharing traditional knowledge that strengthens negotiation techniques
✅ Brazilian Jiu Jitsu athletes revealing how discipline, adaptability, and mindset shape decision-making
✅ Top business leaders and legal professionals breaking down high stakes negotiation strategies

We explore how mental resilience, business growth, leadership, and personal development are all connected. Whether you're in the boardroom, on the mats, or negotiating in everyday life, Rolling Through Negotiations brings you powerful strategies, transformative stories, and practical tools to sharpen your negotiation skills.

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