528. Douglas Murray - Joe Rogan, “Experts” & How Hitler’s Nazism Took the Middle East

heretics. · 2025-04-17

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Douglas Murray joins Andrew Gold to break down his debate with comedian Dave Smith on the Joe Rogan podcast. They discuss misinformation about Israel and Hamas, and why comedians shouldn't be treated as Middle East experts. Murray explains how antisemitic propaganda — including Mein Kampf — is still widespread across the Arab world, and how Nazi-style ideology remains mainstream in parts of the Muslim world.

Get Douglas’ book On Democracies & Death Cults: Israel, Hamas and the Future of the West here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Democracies-Death-Cults-Israel-Future/dp/0008729565

They cover the October 7 attacks, including shocking statistics on British Muslim beliefs, and the trend of accusing Israel of crimes committed by its enemies. Murray warns about the “Lebanonisation” of Europe and reflects on the West’s growing instability, woke double standards, and the UN's disproportionate focus on Israel.

The episode also explores historical revisionism around Churchill, the dangers of expert denial, and the moral challenges facing democracies when confronted by terrorist regimes.
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