28 - Resist. Speak Up. Do Good with Marion Anderson

28 - Resist. Speak Up. Do Good with Marion Anderson

Good Girl Deprogramming · 2025-05-21
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Episode 28 - Resist. Speak Up. Do Good with Marion Anderson

Marion Anderson is a Scottish expat living in North West Arkansas, the Co-founder and CEO of The Fearless PX, and co-host of The Elephant in the Org podcast—where workplace taboos get the airtime they deserve. Currently pursuing a PhD, her research dives into psychological safety and how companies are (or aren’t) getting it right when it comes to remote, hybrid, and return-to-office policies. When not debating the future of work, she’s a devoted dog parent to Jack and Talisker—the latter named after her favorite Scottish whisky, of course. Expect hot takes, humor, and just the right amount of rebellion.

What we talk about:

01:48 – Growing up in 1980s West of Scotland: poverty, violence, and early caregiving

03:36 – The strategic good girl: how conditioning served and harmed

04:04 – Rebellion in HR: rejecting outdated norms and using data-driven influence

05:59 – Class trauma, food insecurity, and safety behaviours that linger

07:18 – Avoiding more dangerous paths: controlled rebellion and survival

08:42 – Caring for her father through illness and dementia from a young age

10:15 – Making the impossible decision to place her dad in care

14:16 – Grieving through dementia: ongoing loss and emotional suppression

19:06 – Burnout in the Middle East: filling the void with work and others’ problems

19:41 – Complex PTSD and the realisation of deep emotional damage

21:16 – The origin of Marion’s PhD: why workplace inclusion for carers matters

24:23 – The George Banks problem: work built for men, not women

25:23 – Elon, inequality, and the illusion of meritocracy

27:59 – The cost of existing and how working class women are punished

28:36 – Living in the US South: brainwashing, amnesia, and resistance

31:23 – The call to arms: speak up, be a nasty woman, use your power

33:01 – Research as resistance: how people still want to be heard

37:42 – Why psychological safety must not be the next DEI casualty

39:50 – The business case is clear—but control and conformity are rising

40:47 – Final words: resist, speak up, do good—because it’s the right thing

Follow Marion on social media:

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marionandersonpx/

Elephant in the Org - https://theelephantintheorg.buzzsprout.com/

The Fearless PX - https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-fearless-px

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Website - https://www.michelleminnikin.com/

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mminnikin/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/goodgirldeprogramming

TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@michelleminnikin

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