Dancing with Systems
Wayne Visser & Sally Uren

Dancing with Systems

No. of episodes
6
Latest episode
2026-10-27

Where can you listen?

Dancing with Systems (co-hosted by Dr Sally Uren and Prof. Dr Wayne Visser) aims to help change agents from across the spectrum - in business, government, academia, and civil society - better understand the complex set of dynamics at play in the extraordinary systems transitions currently underway. 

This debut season will explore how six key systems - energy, food, finance, technology, nature and health - are evolving, examine where the key sticking points to transformation lie, and ask what actions will help unlock meaningful systems change.

Episodes

Questions & Answers

How many episodes are there of Dancing with Systems?

There are 6 episodes avaiable of Dancing with Systems.

What is Dancing with Systems about?

We have categorized Dancing with Systems as:

  • Business
  • Management

Where can you listen to Dancing with Systems?

Dancing with Systems is available, among others places, on:

  • Spotify
  • Apple Podcasts
  • Podtail
  • Google Podcasts

When did Dancing with Systems start?

The first episode of Dancing with Systems that we have available was released 5 August 2026.

Who creates the podcast Dancing with Systems?

Dancing with Systems is produced and created by Wayne Visser & Sally Uren.